It’s them damn hippies again

Floyd County’s Board of Supervisors surprised some this week with a 3-2 vote to reject a plan that would allow volunteers from the Humane Society to help out at the county animal shelter.

The vote left at least one supervisor — Bill Gardner — visibly angry. Gardner voted to accept the plan that would have allowed the volunteers to help staff the center at no cost to the county. The action came after county administrator Dan Campbell spent several months working with the Humane Society to hammer out a deal.

Courthouse supervisor Jerry Boothe said the "only people" in his district who seem to support the proposal are members of the Humane Society. However, another source tells me that some board members got an earful from another county official at the recent Virginia League of Counties meeting. That official claimed letting the Humane Society into their animal shelter operation ended up with the them building a new $5 million cat shelter.

Just because something like that may have happened in another county doesn’t mean it would happen here. Even our supervisors aren’t that gullible — I hope.

I wonder if something more basic is at work here. It could be a resurfacing of the old "us vs. them" mentality that pits Floyd County locals against the alternative lifestylers.  Listen to the breakfast conversations at The Blue Ridge Restaurant and you hear the guys in the overalls and John Deere hats say the Humane Society is "run by hippies" and shouldn’t be allowed into any part of county government.

If this is really what sent Boothe and fellow supervisors Virgel Allen and Fred Gerald scurrying for cover and voting against the animal shelter then they should be ashamed. They owe the Humane Society and the residents of Floyd County an apology.

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18 Responses to It’s them damn hippies again

  1. Eric December 14, 2008 at 12:56 am

    I agree with Jeff 100%. I do not condone the fact that animals are being killed the day they are brought in. Thats ludacris. I am not up to date with Animal Control Laws but there has to be a minimum waiting period so that an owner can have the time to locate a lost pet. I don’t think if they pick up my cat/dog today, and I call all around the neighbors and wait a day or two to see if it comes back before I check with the pound that my cat/dog will die by lethal injection.

    My only concern is that the volunteers understand that ACO’s have a job to do and that some animals unfortunately are going to be put down. I think that you have to look at other programs in the NRV as well. I know that some jurisdictions have had volunteers/pound pals and the program takes off great, the pound increases hours and adoption rates and then the volunteers fall away and the ACO’s are left with a overpopulated pound and no help and a county that expects the same level of support from them as they were getting with the help.

    Just give up on the conspirancy theories. There is nothing to hide at the pound. Just procedure and laws to follow that may upset some volunteers.

  2. April December 18, 2008 at 11:50 am

    I see the answer to the question “should I stay in animal welfare once I get to Floyd?” staring me in the face. (It’s a yes.)

    The shelter here in Santa Fe entered into a partnership with city and county Animal Control some years ago. AC does enforcement and we do care. It has worked out very well in terms of operations and over the last decade the shelter has been transformed from a place of death and misery to a place of hope and even joy. It was all due to a few people who had a desire to make the shelter more humane and who showed up week after week to do so. These days we’re considered one of the best in the country. A big part of why is because we provide a clean and healthful environment for the animals as priority number one.

    Floyd sure seems to have gotten it together in so many ways other places have not that I’m sure there’s enough pressure to get the best thing done. I’ll be getting my hands dirty with the rest of the partnership’s supporters very shortly!

  3. Pat Scott-Cobb December 15, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    First of all, I’m a proud member of the Floyd County Humane Society. We’re a small, all volunteer organization that works hard to find homes for as many “dumped” animals as possible. The negotaions between the County Administrator and the Humane Society to address the request to volunteer at the pound was thorough and detailed with respect for the role of all parties involved. It has never been, nor will it ever be, the goal of the Humane Society to “take over” the pound. A lot of hard work goes into deciding which dogs we can take from the pound, foster and find homes for. As Ms. Luster pointed out, we want to increase adoptions. If you are at all interested in this issue, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR BOS representative. Let your voice be heard. Thank you.

  4. Jeff December 13, 2008 at 9:12 am

    First, I’m not all that informed on the pound/humane society issue but would like to say this..I’m sure the pound could use the help, but I do think there should be ground rules that keeps the ACO in charge and unless it be a violation of law they should make the decisions and those decisions should stand with-out causing issues. I know that some people are just cut out to be trouble makers and those need not apply and I think the ACO should be able to say with reason why someone should be removed as a volunteer. But I think with someone level headed leading the volunteer program it would work.
    I’m not for putting animals down but realize sometimes that it has to happen, Maybe the volunteers could conduct spay and neutering classes to train folks.
    And couldn’t there be a trial period for the volunteers?

    Second, Wasn’t it those so called hippies that raised all that money to make the library project happen..looks like we could use that to modernize the pound..

    And Third…Them Hippies been here long enough…I just call them NEIGHBOR…thats whats so great about Floyd.

    ohhhh…who said it was just hippies that wanted to volunteer??? I might would also…can I wear my tie-dyed shirt?

  5. rio semione December 14, 2008 at 7:23 am

    Jeff, your comment made me laugh out loud….with joy. Very well put, your thoughts. Thank you. The Pound may not have anything to hide, but bringing the Humane Society (or anyone else) in would create more work initially. I’ve never been to the pound…but I imagine it is not as clean as it should be, and that it is set up more for a VERY temporary stay…and not for sustaining health and life for animals. BUT in the long run…the Humane Society could also be involved in regular cleaning and fixing up to make it nicer. I say, let’s keep this issue on the front burner and not get discouraged. New ideas take time to cook and take shape and they might come around. This is a GREAT cause, one long in coming to Floyd (just like recycling) and I ask the Humane Society to keep the public informed in what we can do to help create this cooperative, and keep the faith, all.

  6. Jeff Walker December 14, 2008 at 8:31 am

    I spoke with David Ingram on Friday, I learned two points from that brief discussion.

    He and Mr. Gardner supported the proposal worked out between the Administrator (Dan Campbell) and the Humane Society. In order for the proposal to be revisited one of the Supervisors that voted against, must bring it up for discussion. That would be Virgil Allen, Fred Gerald or Jerry Boothe.

    The proposal included language in which the Administrator would have the authority to continue or decline the involvement of volunteers.

  7. Rebecca December 15, 2008 at 8:09 pm

    The Pulaski County Humane Society would be happy to discuss our arrangement that we have with Animal Control in the county owned shelter with any Floyd county goverment official. Our door is open. The key is defining who does what and non-interference with each others agencies and respecting differences and working on solutions to help each other to help the animals. The arrangement is not perfect but we have come a long, long way. Our shelter fundraising project opened our eyes to the large number of citizens that truly cared about animals in our community. Last year we sterilized 750 animals utilizing our Spay Clinic located in the county owned facility (plus other venues). That’s a record for us and a win/win for the local tax payer, animal control, and the humane society. We decided to partner with our government for a host of reasons but the first reason was that the most critical animals in need are at the county kill facility and if we opened our own facility we would not be on the front lines, helping those that needed us the most. We also would have spent a lot more tax payer dollars building 2 facilities OR would it have been fair to leave the dumpy county kill shelter and build a nice humane society shelter – leaving them in the dust? We didn’t think it was the right thing to do. Sadly, it sounds like that’s the way Floyd County officials prefer it at this juncture. I hope they can remain open minded and reconsider or at least research the issue further. Humane Societies have a LOT to offer because those that care most about animals in your community are most likely affiliated with them. Floyd county needs to take advantage of all they have to offer – spay/neuter coordination, free donations, supplies, animal treatment funds, donated labor, ETC.

  8. andrew December 12, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    It seems very suspicious to turn down free help without ANY real reason, unless you have something to hide. If Virgil Allen was a former animal control officer, perhaps he knows of things that go on at the shelter that should not be made public.

  9. Tracey C. Mattson December 12, 2008 at 9:18 am

    It seems to me that Virgil Allen shouldn’t even vote on this issue since he was the animal control officer in the past.

    This definitely seems fishy to me…why are they so afraid to allow volunteers in to help? Is someone hiding something?

  10. Carol Anderson December 12, 2008 at 2:42 pm

    Just look at the makeup of the county board and you realize they are mostly the same old men who have dominated Floyd County politics for too long. Fred Gerald is a right-wing religious nut fanatic who hates gays and wants to rid the county of alcohol. Jerry Boothe represents the old guard that opposes change. David Ingram has been there long enough to have the courthouse named after him. Virgil Allen is new but he was the animal control officer during some controversial days involving the shelter. His voting on the issue was clearly a conflict of interest. Bill Gardner, bless his soul, is trying to bring change and drag the county kicking and screaming into modern times but he is hopelessly outnumbered by the old boy network.

  11. chris December 12, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    I agree entirely with Carol. I wish Bill Gardner every success and I’m sick of the good old boys standing in the way of change. Our supervisors have made some big mistakes and this is another one. Why won’t they allow the Humane Society in? Why wouldn’t they graciously accept help unless they had something to hide? Is Dan Campbell destined to find his efforts thwarted at every turn? Why hire an administrator if you aren’t going to listen to him? I think we all need a big dose of non-violent communication education. I’m tired of the “us and them” mentality. We all live here, no one is planning to leave, we better learn to get along. This combative mentality serves no good purpose.

  12. Jack Russell December 12, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    I share your collective disappointment that the proposal didn’t pass. I think that the project could have been an innovative start toward public-private partnerships and cooperation in times of economic difficulties sorely in need of creative solutions.

    But I do not share your collective response of personal attacks and derision. Those kind of rantings do nothing to resurrect the proposal nor do they contribute to the kind of civil discourse that might produce a different outcome in the future. When was the last time someone punched you in the nose and you, in turn reached out to to them to seek resolve to the issue?

    Yes several of our supervisors have served long tenures. But they are not bad people. We may not agree with some or any of their positions and decisions. But they are not bad people. But they are doing. We are just watching.

    I think our collective frustrations should question why have so many of our elections been unopposed? Could it be because too many of us are not willing to devote the time to public service at sacrifice of work and family. That is an understandable and valid reason. But it is a reason the sitting supervisors have chosen to ignore in favor of public service. They sure couldn’t be doing it for the money, the glory, or the thanks because those rewards are woefully meager. But they are doing. We are just watching.

    I really can’t presume to know if any of you, or the balance of Floyd’s population for that matter, actually took some time out to engage your respective supervisor on the Humane Society proposal. But, if the answer is negative, and without denying anyone’s right of free speech here in the aftermath, how can any of us really complain with clear conscience, if we contributed to a vacuum surrounding their decision?

    The initial concern revolved around liability. The Society met that objection. If indeed the current objection was the looming prospect of a multi-million dollar cat shelter, surely an exclusion of that kind of outcome could be incorporated into a successor proposal. The supervisors could ask for such. The Society could promise such. But excoriation will not produce results. Let’s stop watching. Let’s advance the project in a civil fashion. To do otherwise is to write the proposal’s epitaph.

  13. Barbara Lynwood December 12, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    If there was really a concern about building a cat shelter why was it not addressed at the meeting? My sister asked Mr. Boothe about his objection and she said he brushed her off with “the people didn’t want it.” What people? A handful of constituents who may have spoken to him? The same people who put down outsiders and newcomers to the area? Letters to the Floyd Press overwhelmingly supported the proposal. If the board of supervisors wants to know what the people think, why not hold a public hearing on the matter and let the people speak? Better yet, why not hold the supervisor meetings in the evenings so working people can attend?

  14. Diane Akers December 12, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    If the old guard of the board of supervisors really cared about what the people thought they would follow Bill Gardner’s lead and put up a web site that invites feedback from residents. Bill is the only one that does it. Shame on them.

  15. Chris December 12, 2008 at 7:10 pm

    This is indeed a sad and misguided decision on the part of the Board of Supervisors.

    Not too long ago, under Mr. Allen’s tenure as ACO, virtually 100% of all dogs brought to the Floyd Pound were killed or otherwise disposed of. Since the Humane Society was started, that has been cut in half. The BOS (exclusive of Bill Gardner of course) should pay closer attention.

    Pulaski, of all localities, is way ahead of Floyd on this issue. A couple of years ago, the Pulaski Humane Society spearheaded a private-public partnership to build a new $1M+ shelter that would incorporate the Humane Society and Animal Control in the same facility. It was absolutely *amazing* the public support for it – nearly *half* of all people in Pulaski contributed money. Let me repeat – nearly *half* of all people in Pulaski contributed money to it. Those supervisors who opposed it either lost their next election, or decided not to run for re-election. The Pulaski BOS was totally transformed over this one issue. And it wasn’t all them “hippies” in Pulaski who voted for this change – this was just a “last straw” for all the residents with their BOS.

    Montgomery County has recently announced they will be building a new multi-million dollar shelter.

    The Floyd Pound has been a huge embarrassment for the County, most particularly under Mr. Allen’s tenure, and it’s well past time that the County do something about it. More than half of all countians own companion animals, and I wager most of them care deeply about them. The time for killing them in the County pound must end. Our current BOS *are* all motivated by civic-mindedness, and I do not question their sincerity and sacrifice. But this issue could be one that unites us to get the BOS that actually represents us.

  16. Eric December 12, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    Who would ultimately be in control of the pound if the partnership is made with the humane society? Would the county continue to control the direction or would the human society attempt to take over.

    It seems that everywhere the humane society goes, a multi million dollar renovation follows. Can the county afford to make that renovation. Aren’t we still paying for the courthouse? How about using the money for other things. I just think that maybe the conspiracy theory of hiding something is a little far fetched.

  17. Doug Thompson December 13, 2008 at 8:41 am

    The agreement called for the Humane Society to offer volunteer help in staffing, animal intake, cleaning cages, etc.  The animal shelter would have remained under control of the county and the Humane Society would not have had any administrative responsbility or control.

  18. Darcie Luster December 13, 2008 at 9:00 am

    The Humane Society is not trying to run the pound, we don’t even want to be involved in the actual control of the pound. We simply want to improve the conditions of the animals currently at the pound, increase the hours of operation, hopefully increase the adoption rate, and help reunite lost dogs with their owners by creating a website with current photos of all the dogs at the pound at any given time. We are not trying to get a new cat shelter built (in fact, we already paid to have a “cat room” added on to the pound years ago, and to our knowledge not cat has ever set foot in it, there is still a 100% euthanasia rate for cats at the pound, and they are generally killed the day they are brought in.) We are not trying to make the pound a “no kill” shelter, as we understand that there will always be vicious or otherwise unadoptable animals that will need to be put down. We just want to help the animals to find homes, something that should also be a goal for the pound. We are not trying to step on anyone’s toes.